Monthly Archives: July 2017

Mickey Garcia Picks A Bone With Adrien Broner

 

The fight is being marketed as 3 division champ Mikey Garcia, 36-0, 30 KO vs 4 division champ Adrien Broner, 33-2, 24 KO this Saturday, July 29 @ Barclays Center, Brooklyn, New York.

The fight should be a good one because, whatever his numerous flaws, Broner at least comes to fight unlike many other high profile American divas in boxing today. Garcia is a highly disciplined ring technician extraordinaire, so ultimately, if you like slow, careful, progressive beatings, that’s what we’ll likely see the more the fight progresses, perhaps even a stoppage by Broner’s corner. I give Broner a 5% puncher’s chance, and that’s it.

*** On a side note, I don’t get how boxing suddenly allowed fighters to have these thick beards in the ring as Broner sports. It’s already bad enough with their atrocious ring entrances blaring trash misappropriated as music. Such coincides with an overall decline in American boxing.

A Broner fight pays decent and is a guaranteed workout. Mikey is well supported by his older brother,  Roberto Garcia, who gave Marcos Maidana a good gameplan to BTFO out of Broner a few years back. About Billions Broner flushing his career down the potty like he did with his money on video clips as the Broner Braindead Trust pulled another boner in their opponent selection…OUCH!

FUN before the fight

FUN before the fight

 

 

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Wilt Chamberlain vs Ali~50th Year Anniversary Tribute

In 1967, Wilt Chamberlain contracted  to challenge Muhammad Ali for his undisputed heavyweight title in Madison Square Garden. ABC and Howard Cosell arranged a special sports segment with Ali and Wilt appearing jointly to announce the fight. Jim Brown was supposed to have been the promoter and had enough money lined up on the table that enticed the Ali team to enter into contract negotiations. The abbreviated story is that Ali’s manager, the Nation of Islam, son of Prophet Elijah Muhammad, Herbert Muhammad, passed on the deal without comment, so Ali refused to sign the contract as verified by the public ABC youtube footage shown here. Ali did put on a credible act of talking about a fight, yet couldn’t be induced to pen his John Henry to paper.

Instead, Ali’s last title defense of 1967 was a milquetoast affair against grizzled long time contender Zora Folley before being stripped of his titles in 1968 for refusing to be drafted into the US Army. That led to a 3 year exile from boxing and a pending case before the US Supreme Court before Ali was able to make his 1970 comeback against Jerry Quarry in Atlanta, Georgia. Not many boxing fans know a gang of Northeastern big city thugs crashed Ali’s elite Atlanta victory celebration filled with Atlanta’s most renown political icons,  media big shots, and various celebrities to rob the well heeled bunch at gunpoint. Got away with it for a huge harvest too, but slowly the underworld extracted a payback of sorts since these were just two bit punk gangsters, not the real gangsters who would never dream of pulling that kind of public relations nightmare heist. 

The 1960s through the 70s was quite an era for sports fans. Boxing’s big fights usually aired over “real” free terrestrial TV as did the Olympics, World Series, Superbowl and many of their regular season games. Then you had the Kentucky Derby, Indy 500 and Daytona 500 and so on. Ripe, passionate sports fans of all ages, sex, and races grew on trees into the furthest reaches of America ready to be plucked for viewing every sports weekend.

What could’ve been the biggest sports splash of the Century slowly ebbed out of existence. Oh, to be sure there was a brief flare up in 1971 had Ali pulled off the win against Joe Frazier in the Fight of the Century. The closed circuit fight was to be in the Houston Astrodome with posters actually printed up.

Ali instead got well whooped by Frazier, so Wilt canceled their contract since the heavyweight title was no longer Ali’s to defend as most of the money backing the deal also fled for greener pastures. I don’t know who the promoters were, but Jim Brown talks about the fight in his Siri interview below where he laughs about the Ali shouting “Timber” story that supposedly killed the fight. He may have been part of the promotion, or at least close enough to deny “The Timber” moment ever happened as reported. Ali once again entered  into his wanderings in the wilderness of being yesterday’s news even as he was ultimately reaffirmed with a favorable Supreme Court ruling and could now box free of Federal charges against him. Wilt was in his last two creaky knee years of an all time career in the National Basketball League, so he was less inclined to further pursue an assbackwards sport, boxing, rife with so many contractual problems and other boxing monkeyshines magnified by the political instability of Ali himself.

At any rate, Ali never had had full control over his career with Herr Herbert at the helm. Ali wisely recalled the fatal fate of  Malcolm X after getting crossed up with the NOI. He picked a later date after his retirement after NOI founder, Elijah Muhammad,  passed away before Ali felt safe to leave that sect.

Nonetheless, Wilt did his part in trying to make this fight, and he had more than just financial backers that included substantial boxing support from Cus D’Amato. The future HOF trainer had long made a study of the Ali style and was training Wilt in secrecy just how to leverage his immense gifts of size, strength, reach, athletic ability, and, yes, it must be stated frankly, Wilt was substantially more intelligent. Substantially! Ali may have been a naturally gifted fighter, yet he was physically inferior to Wilt with Ali further burdened by a limited boxing style that only he ever used to success that served him ill has he aged. Cus knew how to crack his style and famously showed Ali how in a documentary just how Frazier was going to break him down. That prophecy was fulfilled on March of 1971 in the Fight of the Century.

Ali fans naturally scoff and deride the notion of a basketball player being able to beat Ali, but they typically show ignorance in understanding just how gifted Wilt was compared to every other athlete in the world. He would’ve preferred track and field or the Harlem Globetrotters over pro basketball, and yet he set all those still unbroken basketball records because that’s where the money was. Now, seriously, think about it. For sure boxing promoters and trainers hounded him from day one as a pro with the Globetrotters, and eventually a rumor here or there would surface about him in training and of course his two contracts to fight Ali.

As stylistic matchups go, in some notable boxing “exhibitions” against athletes from other sports, Ali looked not only very poor, but vulnerable as well. Ali also looked vulnerable against legit contenders using their own personalized awkward boxing styles.

The Ali/Antonio Inoki fight in Tokyo netted Ali a cool $6 million, but also landed him in a Tokyo hospital on a critical condition after Inoki kicked his leg into a throbbing mess that threatened to send a fatal blood clot to his brain. This a fight where Ali had full access to boxing rules, yet Inoki was limited to only 10% of his arsenal and had to be pulled off  take downs of Ali by the American ref, Gene Lebell, a notoriously famed Judo expert and all around street and Hollywood tough guy.

Then there was the farcical encounter with 400 lb Gorilla Monsoon who quickly popped a vicious body slam on Ali that I’m certain was not supposed to be part of festivities. Ali luckily escaped without injury, but only because the match was immediately stopped.

And then the also ill advised exhibition against Denver defensive lineman, Lyle Alzado, who was likely pumped up on steroids. Ali had nothing to keep Alzado off him and was mauled throughout.

Most fighters are trained in a traditional, upright boxing style that overall is the best style to use in boxing, but boxing has always had a cast of “awkward-savants” who dished out serious punishment to great success. Ali used his own awkward style to great success against traditional fighters, but struggled mightily against other awkward fighters no matter who won. Just think Karl Mildenberger, Buster Mathis, Joe Frazier, Oscar Bonavena, Rudi Lubbers, George Foreman, Ken Norton, Chuck WepnerRon Lyle, Earnie Shavers, and Leon Spinks.

Wilt, with his huge physical advantages, would be the King of Awkward. Wilt had already proven that he could outrun the NFL’s premiere running back of the era, Jim Brown, twice in a row in fact. Wilt turned pro early, an action that was forbidden in his day, but not for the Harlem Globetrotters whom Wilt loved for the rest of his days. He played a 7-1 guard, now think about all that crazy ball handling he got in as a key part of the comedy troop. While no doubt he met many intellectual equals or even greater than his own considerable intelligence, I doubt he ever met his physical equal in his life. If that athlete existed, he’d be in the public record, but nope, just the usual greats of every era, but no Wilts. There are only two other of the most celebrated all around athletes in their day that could match Wilt’s all around ability, yet both would be as equally dwarfed in size and strength as was Ali. The first being the greatest all around athlete ever in this world, Jim Thorpe, and Babe Ruth who still holds Major League Baseball pitching and hitting records, neither of whom lived long enough to meet with Wilt because of age differences. No doubt, they would be mightily impressed.

As to my opinion then and now, well then I was a punk kid pumped for the fight. What’s not to like about such a pairing? I was still raw and unstudied, but instinctively I knew Wilt had a decent chance. I still like the fight today knowing so much more about both Wilt and Ali. I didn’t know who would win when I was young, but now I strongly favor Wilt because of all those physical and mental advantages with Cus D’Amato lined up in his corner focusing on one specific Ali style only. Ali could not study Wilt boxing because there was zero tape, and more importantly, zero sparring partners who could replicate Wilt. Cus claimed that during his childhood Wilt boxed in the amateurs for a short duration, but no record exists that I know of.

Chamberlain loved physical challenges as his varied sport interests are a testament to, but what a shame the public didn’t get to see one of the greatest “what if?” fights in boxing. Cus D’Amato is supposed to have made him an offer to box Ali in 1965, the first of the 3 fights with Ali offered to Wilt. The Philly 76ers talked Chamberlain out of the match with more money, but the idea of the fight never died and gets talked about on boxing forums to this very day 50 years later.

Cus D’Amato trained Wilt Chamberlain vs Angelo Dundee trained Muhammad Ali, who ya got?

 

 

 

Say It Ain’t So~Just Another Joe Smith vs Sullivan Barrera

Last time he was in action, New York Local 66 Laborers Union member, Joe Smith Jr, 23-1, 19 KO, spectacularly knocked Bernard Hopkins completely out of the ring and out of boxing. Now, mysteriously, he’s assigned the formidable task of prevailing against Sullivan Barrera19-1, 14 KO,  this Saturday, July 15th in a return to the scene of his last spectacle, the Forum, Inglewood, California.

                                                         WHOOPS…….

                               >>>>>Going>>>>> Going >>>>>

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While I expect this to be a good fight between quality contenders, it’s very interesting in how Smith is being shunted aside after two of the hottest knockouts of 2016 as the away limited “away” fighter against the touted hometown heroes. Andre “Maternity” Ward was busy delivering the Kiss of Death to Boxing in his two matches with Sergey Kovalev, as Adonis Stevenson was busy fighting fringe contenders to pad out his bank account, and that title record that is looking smarter and smarter every day given how Kovalev and his promoter Main Events were treated by the Vega suits. They were near run out of town by horrific officiating in those two Ward bouts in spite of Kovalev’s fan friendly knockout fights that spiked interest in the moribund Lightheavy division.

“Just Another” Joe Smith leap frogged over his opposition to net a #4 Boxrec rating to Barrera’s #12 rating, so on paper this promises to be be a competitive bout, all dependant however by Barrera’s using his traditional come forward boxing style. The WBC International light heavyweight title bauble is the minor trifle being fought for.

I’m picking Joe, but Barrera could prove to be a banana peel and the officiating? These days you’d be better counting on a roll of the dice in a craps game than count on boxing officials. Sad indictment of a noble sport empowered with fair and equitable rules they seldom enforce except in favor of their orchestrated result…only in boxing! 

Bobby Mac Updates the Manny Pacquiao vs Jeff Horn Scoring Travesty

Pacquiao vs Horn Scoring Update:

Folks will be getting a full Monty here using my simplified scoring system scoring points for fighters, not deductions of fighters as is the current incompetent system of scoring. Moreover, I eliminate 90% of the useless padded points boxing uses to cover up the incompetency of their current scoring system. I included abbreviated rd by rd notes that I take in watching every fight as I score it. I liked both fighters going into the bout and knew Horn wasn’t the expected patsy being portrayed. Fighters did their job and put on a real humdinger of a fight, but because of the judging, that great fight was quickly abandoned for an unjustified ugly scoring squabble. True fighters such as these deserve better no matter who wins.

The lack of boxing oversight credibility in this new age of boxing videos and big screens and boxing forums where fans can actually input their views pretty much dooms boxing to an ever diminishing market for a product the average sporting fan can’t understand any more than the idiotic announcers boxing chooses to run boxing in the gutter even further.

Here’s what Horn and Pacquiao looked like late in the fight. Being busted up is only one indicator of how the fight has gone, but Manny is bleeding from unintentional headbutts born of the orthodox/southpaw awkward footwork and body positioning, not legal punches. That’s the reason southpaws used to be converted to orthodox righty because they were a nightmare to fight because of that awkwardness. At any rate because of being so much older in so many fights, Pacquiao is the one that is supposed to have the busted facial features, not Horn.

1. Horn 1-0 Pac– P defense good, but H very aggress/hit on break-P knock H gum out-rough round for P but gains traction.

2. Pac 1-0 Horn-H broken rhythm style tuff to crack/exchange favor P-P combo as P show more aggress now-

3. Pac 1-0 Horn– Great action fight-H aggress but P box/move/good in exchanges/smiling at such a good fight

4. Pac 0-0 Horn– both aggress-H throw P down- H aggress but P with R Hooks, maybe tired.

5. Pac 0-0 Horn– H aggress and P box/pic shots- H prove tuff customer

6. Pac 0-0 Horn– H bull P to rope/maul- P OK- time for butt-P cleared by doc- P box-H good Rt-nobody hurt in fight yet

7. Horn 1-0 Pac– Exchange- H slow but bull P to ropes/exchange/time for P butt that hurt P/P to ropes

8. Pac 1-0 Horn– Ref good job- H aggress-P move and pic shots/H down from Rt but maybe feet tangle- No KD

9. Pac 1+1-0 H– H aggress but not as much-P pick shots/batters H around ring/H on shaky legs but not down

10. Pac 1-0 Horn– H aggress-P rest w/good combos/move-H still game

11. Pac 1-0 Horn– H aggress/grab/rassle- P sharp combos/H time for glove tape repair/tired trick by corner

12. Pac 1-0 Horn– H bull to ropes- P box well/H time for glove tape repair/exchanges favor P- H grab/bell and P with furious shadow flurry showing he’s ready for more

By rounds my score is Pac 7/Horn 2/Even 3. Pac dominated the latter half of the fight as Horn tired, and if I assign Even Rounds to Horn that makes it 7-5 still for Pac.

By my simplified rd by rd scoring, Pac scored 8 points(7+1), Horn scored 2 points, and 3 rounds were scored zero points. Current boxing rules ignore even rounds as other sports rightly score non scoring possessions as zero. There were no foul deductions or knockdowns to add any additional points to the fighter totals, just the one dominant round by Pac that netted him one extra point, so by my points scoring, 8-2 for Pac.

Of course the judges scores read like basketball scores where 90% of the points are useless padded points.

Official scores 117-111, 115-113, 115-113, all for Horn.

Aggregate judge cards here. First 4 rounds all match, and then all helter skeltor breaks out:

Horn’s Brisbane celebration 4 days later. Note both eyes still in recovery:

FULL FIGHT HERE:

***EDIT in WBO 5 judge panel results along with Compubox numbers:

The anonymous WBO scorecards yield Horn 3, Manny 1, and 1 Draw, meaning they scored the fight much closer, but no other big pro sport has 3 separate scores and scoring controversies every other week, sometimes a half dozen in the week save boxing.

Thing is, today Compubox and it’s copycats are just as viable as the shaky judges, and here is that summary:

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  • Compubox stats showed that Pacquiao landed 182 out of 573 punches thrown (32%), whilst Horn landed 92 of 625 thrown (15%).