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Juan Manuel Marquez & Timothy Bradley Fight For Respect

Coming up fast under the wire like a nuclear studded stealth fighter comes the Timothy Bradley/Juan Manuel Marquez confrontation Saturday, October 12th at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas. Hard to know how this bout is going to shake out because of the polar opposite styles and attributes of the two longtime P4P fighters. Prior to each fighting Manny Pacquiao, I would have favored the unrelentingly awkward frenzy of the quicksilver Bradley over the traditional, upright, stationary countering style of Marquez.

The boxing landscape has since rumbled massively on the Richter scale, swallowing up the Manny Pacquiao phenomenon of the last two decades that left him twisting cruelly in the forever hot winds of his critics. Nor have the two fighters responsible for that tectonic shift been able to escape venomous strikes against them. Timothy Bradley may have won the judges’ hearts in a split decision win over Pacquiao, but he lost a lifetime of respect built up over his considerable career thus far because nobody but his family thinks he came close to winning that fight.

Billions upon Billions...

Billions upon Billions…

Who to thank in Vegas for yet another rinse and repeat “rubber stamped” hack job? Insert Carl Sagan intoning “billions upon billions” of hack jobs littering the great boxing galaxy in perpetuity it would seem.

Speaking of Vegas, their favorite fighter not named Floyd Mayweather Jr just happens to be Juan Manuel Marquez. He may have finally scored a highlight knockout for the ages over his long time nemesis, but all was for naught on the respectometer due to the sordid reputation of his BALCO associated physical trainer Angel “Memo” Heredia who transformed Marquez’s modest physical frame into Hulk Jr. This ain’t your tubby, pissoir tonic guzzling Juan Manuel Marquez of the Floyd Mayweather Jr fight anymore, that’s for certain.

As to physical frames, Timothy Bradley is right out of a Superman comic book, clearly engaged in a lifetime of body building that he apparently pares down with a vegan diet during training camp if what I have read is correct. He loves to flex and pose, so it will be interesting to see the weigh in contrast between what used to be the modestly composed Marquez who used to let his fists do his talking in the ring.

Hulk Jr vs Superman Jr?

Hulk Jr vs Superman Jr?

Bradley was coaxed into a comeback of sorts after his one year rest period to recover from serious ankle injuries sustained in the Pacquiao bout. The deranged death threats against him and his family along with the failure of the boxing community to rally round his huge “upset” put a rust on his insecure form against Ruslan Provodnikov, a brutal bout Bradley spent much time out on his feet as he staggered around looking for a place to fall. We’ll see soon enough if he’s recover full use of his ankles and chin since this new form of Marquez punches harder than ever.

Marquez found out the hard way that hiring BALCO associated trainers won him no new fans either. This fight was cobbled together after a last ditch compromise that sees Bradley being tested by the illicit VADA drug testing cartel while Marquez is drug tested by some fly by night illicit drug testing cartel because of longtime down and dirty disputes between Victor Conte and Memo Heredia who claim to be cleaning up boxing with their magic elixirs. Yeah, and I’ve got some lovely ocean frontage in Afghanistan for sale too, just send me your bank account numbers for a steal….errr….the deal of the century!

It also goes without saying that neither of these guys can carry a PPV on their own, so it will be interesting how those numbers pan out. Both could’ve earned much more against Pacquiao, but their egos insisted on parity if not the lions share of that purse, so this fight is also when their high flying rockets make a hard return to the boxing business world they live in.

Bradley could get careless and pop like a burnt out light bulb, or he might do light saber pirouettes around the bulked out form of Marquez. Don’t know who the favorite will be since Marquez is 40 years old to Bradley’s 30, but like I say, Vegas loves Marquez, thus he can be seen as both the money and the home town fighter for this bout and likely the modest betting favorite.

Be a nice change of pace to see an exciting, well contested, well officiated, and well scored fight to make up for the last couple of big duds this year. Marketing grossly exceeded the quality of the officiating and fighting of the year’s big “events.” Mayweather vs Alvarez and Klitschko vs Povetkin were anticlimactic compared to the hype of their big money promotions, so maybe next year boxing can get quality back into big events…..always a next year.

Juan Manuel Marquez Better Than Floyd Mayweather Jr?

Now that long suffering Marquez supporters are in the middle of their fun propping him up on an impossible pedestal as happens to Hall of Fame fighters when they deliver their signature bout, in this case a singular Hail Mary savior right hand delivered as Marquez teetered on the brink of extinction, so where does he rate in today’s boxing landscape and yesteryear’s historical record?

One question you won’t hear the Great Wizards of Boxing’s Oz World ask, “Is Juan Manuel Marquez better than Floyd Mayweather Jr, thusly and justly due the consensus Ring and Boxrec #1 P4P spot?”

We can forgive Boxrec for not talking because servers are designed to be mute as far as interpersonal communication. Ring won’t talk about it because Mayweather is The Franchise of Golden Boy Promotions, and we know who owns Ring. They had already stripped Manny Pacquiao before he ever took the Bradley loss, a  warning shot across the bow of the Pacquiao Ship of State before the boxing bombardments blasted him out of the water with 2 consecutive losses.

We can clearly see that what passes as boxing’s illustrious cognoscenti these days, why they have supposed that in a single mighty swipe by Marquez, 55-6-1, 40 KO, he has leapt over the decaying careers of Salvador Sanchez, 44-1-1, 32 KO, Marco Antonio Barrera, 67-7, 44 KO, and Eric Morales, 52-9, 36 KO to share the almighty throne  of Julio Cesar Chavez Sr, 107-6-2, 86 KO.

A time share contract is currently being hammered out with The Great Pantheon of Boxing.

The Marquez fans are a relentless bunch outside the ring much as Juan Manual Marquez was inside the ring when he got his man hurt, a great combination finisher and now a one punch assassination artist to boot. According to the official Hysterical Society of Never Say Die Marquez Fans, Marquez has now proven he owns Manny Pacquiao, 54-5-2, 38 KO, with a perfect 4-0 record against the newly revised Pacquiao record, 52-8-1, 38 KO. Pacquiao is now officially stripped of all his fighter of the decade awards which are transferred to Marquez. Pacquiao’s 2nd place finish in the largest Greatest Fighters poll ever conducted, why that is also stripped from Pacquiao and awarded to Marquez who is now sandwiched between Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali, well beyond any Mexican fighter in history, so adios Julio, we barely knew ya, now get lost.

Well, that makes Marquez better than Mayweather now and in the future, after all, he’s got a perfect record of 4-0 against Pacquiao. Now compare to Mayweather’s perfect 3-0 record of skipping out of the Pacquiao fights. Marquez toed the scratch line against Pacquiao 4X whereas Mayweather has thrice scratched through his own name on the agreed upon Pacquiao fight contracts.

And when we compare overall records, why Mayweather at 42-1, 26 KO just can’t match up to the Marquez newly minted perfect record of 62-0, 40 KO.

Everyone and their dog, heck, even Manny Pacquiao’s long gone dog, they all know that Marquez shut out Chris John on the cards and never punches low. And he completely outclassed Freddie Norwood, period, end of.

!Yummy For The Tummy!

!Yummy For The Tummy!

In the well documented Golden Boy Promotions sordid Pissgate scandal,  had Marquez not been the lower ranked fighter surreptitiously tricked into drinking his own pissoir slurpees for the privilege of fighting the higher ranking Mayweather, why Marquez woulda knocked  that mothabeata back to Timbuktu, he would have, leaving only the prickly Javier Duran to finish off. Easy, go roust up the Junior son of the Mexican honcho that signed off on the disqualification of Marquez by a 1st round headbutt. Pay him to testify that el padre was dyslexic and recorded everything in reverse order, so serve up some Mexican justice to reverse the reversed order and kiss Javier goodbye.

We already know that the late, great Sugar Ray Robinson fought in washerwomen flurries, so transfer him into the women’s records, voila, Juan Manuel Marquez es numero uno del mundo!

Et tu, Brute,  We’re Done. 

Marquez KO Pacquiao–Time For Pacquiao/Marquez 5?

The plain unvarnished truth of the matter is after a firefight for the ages that saw both fighters hit the deck, with Marquez on the verge of being knocked out, Juan Manuel Marquez summoned up his signature right hand and delivered a knockout for the ages, felling the mighty timber of Manny Pacquiao.

That would be officially at the 2:59 mark at the end of round 6.

OK, the punch harkens back to the thunderbolt out of the blue signature left hand of Antonio Tarver that knocked out out Roy Jones at the beginning of the last decade. It felt like the universe had somehow wobbled and shifted on it’s axis, and maybe it did and maybe it shifted some more tonight.

Over & Out

Over & Out

It’s far too early for Marquez or Pacquiao to decide their next move. First the long suffering Marquez supporters have to have their fun as they prop him up on an impossible pedestal as happens to Hall of Fame fighters when they deliver their signature bout. Without Manny Pacquiao, the Marquez signature bout would have been a lesser one that saw him in just as much trouble against Juan Diaz, only to recover and knock the game Diaz cold.

It was Manny Pacquiao in their rematch at superfeatherweight who beautifully summed up his feelings after Marquez was knocked down and stormed back to knock Pacquiao into the ropes.

“You knock me out, you win……..”

Marquez finally won tonight, but he endured more than his fair share of scrutiny over his new strength and conditioning coach, Angel Heredia, aka Angel Hernandez of BALCO ilk, hired last year for the 3rd fight. He was ecstatic how much bigger and more ripped Marquez was compared to Pacquiao.  Keep in mind that this picture is from a Ring article addressing the accusations against him for showing up with the disgraced training coach and newly muscled up physique.

Here’s a comparison between the last fight in 2011 and this fight: 

Marquez 2011--Marquez 2012

Marquez 2011–Marquez 2012

Just from a visual point of view, Marquez looks like he reduced his body fat say 2% and bulked up his arms say 15%, something easily accomplished with proper weight resistance training for a guy who had never engaged in weight training as a featherweight.

OK, lets compare the Marquez of the Floyd Mayweather Jr fight when he first moved up two divisions to weigh 142 lbs, exactly one pound under what he weighed for the 4th Pacquiao installment.

Urine Tonics & Tossin' Rocks

Urine Tonics & Tossin’ Rocks

OK, the general consensus going into the Mayweather fight was that he was doing all the wrong things. While in good overall condition, he’s doughy with fat and considerably less muscular and fought a poor fight strategy.

I posited in my previous articles concerning fight 3 and 4 that Marquez was in far batter condition than he was for the Mayweather fight not to mention more acclimated at the higher weights to go along with his new trainer. He says he didn’t know about the history of Angel Heredia, aka Angel Hernandez, and that may be, but nonetheless I think he will find that the worm may have turned on his career as folks wonder how after 3 fights of never once downing Manny Pacquiao that he managed at the late age of 39 to not only down him, but knock him cold.

So, anyway, could be the stage is set for Act 5 of Marquez vs Pacquiao, or maybe Marquez can rematch Floyd Mayweather Jr who is reputed to be looking for a fight for the Cinco de Mayo weekend. Oh, but wait, Mayweather has gone on record repeatedly saying that he will never fight an Arum promoter fighter, one of the few statements of truth that he has ever uttered. He has had the pick of the Golden Boy Promotion stables to choose from the past 6 years.

However, Golden Boy Promotions has yet to answer accusations of positive Mayweather drug tests being covered up. Thomas Hauser gives the skinny here:

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-boxing-news/the-ped-mess-part-one

The link also talks about Mayweather’s out of court settlement and public apology to Pacquiao after the supposed positive Mayweather drug tests became known  to the Pacquiao legal team.

Boxing has always been a tough, dirty business with most fighters never getting their just due for competing, it’s just a shame it has to get needlessly dirtier, but it is what it is in this era.

Like I say, it’s just too early for Marquez or Pacquiao to know where they can go from here. Pacquiao extended out his career and extra two years because of the huge amount of money on the table. Marquez might now have the luxury of that option also. Numero Cinco might possibly break PPV records, but they got to sign on the dotted line and then toe up to the scratch line to make a go of it. And don’t forget your pee cups and finger pricks. It’s a dirty and bloody sport, let’s not forget.

At any rate, Marquez KO Pacquiao for now……..enjoy…..

Pacquiao vs Marquez 4 The Money

Pacquiao vs Marquez 4 The Money at MGM Grand, Saturday, December 8th is the shorthand of all you need to know.

`36 Rounds & Counting

36 Rounds & Counting

I did become excited about this fight when Bob Arum bigged up a Mexico City venue, just the place to make Marquez step out of his shell and try for once to really take it to Pacquiao, and just the sort of challenge that Pacquiao loves, a Mexican Bullring packed to the hilt with El Locos screaming for  mano a mano Mexican style boxing that the Filipino relishes. Imagine the contagion spreading around the world on fight night with HBO and Larry Merchant broadcasting from Mexico City as tens of millions storm the worldwide broadcasters for a stream of the fight on whatever set ups they’re using!

Nope, ain’t gonna happen that way.

I gather the numbers didn’t work since Marquez has been a Vegas fighter for most of his career and lacks the overwhelming Mexican support that Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales enjoyed. Marquez is a Top Rank fighter now, so Arum gave him a trial run  in Mexico City against Ukrainian Serhiy Fedchenko for the WBO junior welter title. Marquez aggressively outpointed Fedchenko for his 4th divisional title.

Pacquiao has also become something of a Vegas fighter with Arum carefully booking him at MGM Grand, Floyd Mayweather Jr’s home for the last several years. Mayweather might decide to take the plunge and make a Pacquiao fight on the spur of the moment, so Arum maybe looks to keep the Grand booked for all future Pacquiao dates.

The Trilogy

The Trilogy

As you can see, Marquez was well packed and ripped for the rubber match in a fashion that he has never been thanks to Angela Heredia, one of many infamous trainers part of the BALCO scandal. Somehow he avoided the convictions and jail time others in the scandal were handed, probably by plea deal in exchange for favorable prosecution testimony.

Regardless of whether or not Marquez has fallen into the PEDs trap, his conditioning has been at career bests against Pacquiao. I had hopes that he could provide a good fight against Mayweather when he moved up two divisions a few years back, but then he started taking his frothy health cocktails drawn from a spigot hooked up to his own private pistola, well, I winced and hoped I wouldn’t heave. Then the comic book endurance and strength training of him throwing around large rocks at altitude evaporated whatever chance he had against the crafty Mayweather.

Pacquiao is taking on his third P4P fight in a row with Timothy Bradley sandwiched between Marquez, and, boy howdy, what a surprise wake up call against the undefeated physical phenom. Pacquiao took it big time to Bradley for 9 rounds, hitting him so hard that the shock waves popped tendons in Bradley’s ankles loose from their moorings. Incredibly Bradley didn’t go down in spite of sporting the usual Pacquiao souvenirs of a lumped up, mashed out of place face before convalescing in a wheelchair after the fight ended.

Even more incredibly, the Vegas judges awarded Bradley the split decision in a fight nobody thought was even close. The outrage was such that the WBO commissioned 5 veteran judges to review the fight and awarded Pacquiao the unanimous decision, yet Bradley still holds the WBO title. Bob Arum called for an investigation of himself, wanting to distance himself from the grievous improprieties of the Nevada commission who stacked the judges.

Bradley did physically extend out Pacquiao’s conditioning more than any fighter yet. The 9th round is what turned around the fight for Bradley as he was completely exhausted, a sitting duck for legendary straight left hands that made Pacquiao the most celebrated fighter since Muhammad Ali. Right at the point of the knockout, Pacquiao hit the wall and went into slower and slower motion until they were standing there looking at each other in disbelief. Neither had anything left to mount a decent assault for the rest of the fight, yet Bradley won the judges over while the rest of boxing told him that he really didn’t win the fight. Yeah, thanks guys.

The decision was a headscratcher until you consider the source. This is boxing in Vegas that’s moving closer to pro wrestling in plot line and choreography, see  the Ortiz/Mayweather outrage, and in outcomes, see any of dozens of their fights every year where the judging defies all logic.

There always has been a long standing prejudice against big sluggers like Pacquiao when they fail to knock out their opponent as was expected. Big Vegas Players lose huge sums no matter how technically nuanced Pacquiao has become under Freddie Roach, so it means nothing to judges who know the bottomline. The Marquez and Bradley fights were the easiest fights Pacquiao has had in ages as evidenced by his postfight choirboy looks as opposed to his typical mangled features after he lays down ferocious beatings and knockouts as the most celebrated offensive fighter of the decade. All the lumps were transferred to Bradley and Marquez.

Pacquiao didn’t help his concentration by the revelations of his marital woes hours before the Marquez fight when he was supposedly served divorce papers. His concentration further lapsed before the Bradley fight when he came out against gay marriage in the home state of the powerful Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a liberal democrat in support of gay marriage who Pacquiao had previously campaigned for. Boxing results shouldn’t be determined by politics, but the reality has always been that if the referee and/or judges want, they can determine the outcome of any fight, not the fighters, and the Nevada Commish is a political appointment.

Pacquiao suffered his first officiating outrage with the Agapito Sanchez  Technical Draw when the Dominican Billy Goat butted his way out of the fight. I’ve never seen a better example of a fighter that should have been DQed after it was obvious butting was the only offensive tool in his arsenal. Then the admitted scoring error in the first Marquez fight that would have given Pacquiao the split decision instead of a draw. Then the missed 2nd knockdown by referee  Kenny Bayless in the rematch that should have been at least a unanimous decision for Pacquiao if not a knockout when Marquez walked to Pacquiao’s corner, clearly out on his feet. Bayless is also the ref for the 4th installment, so we’ll see if he can get it right this time around.

Maybe Marquez can borrow some of the fight from diehard JMMarquez fans who continue to litter the internet with bitter claims of victory over Pacquiao. He really does need some extra fight to him IF he REALLY wants to beat Pacquiao.

The Rubber was a stylistic technical disappointment for both. Marquez throw a some furious popcorn flurries off the backfoot that never put a dent into Pacquiao’s features, whereas Pacquiao leading right hooks swiped Marquez’s left eye half closed and his straight lefts lumped up his right side, but he never really went after Marquez nor did he ever hurt him or knock him down like previous encounters.

Pacquiao for his part needs to understand the sympathies that Vegas holds for Marquez and bring back some of his aggressive offense that made him such a legend. No need to abandon technical boxing, just step up the intensity a few notches or risk another controversial decision that might not go his way.

It should also be noted that Pacquiao continues to break his own record for the most Ring P4P fights, the Marquez rubber being his 11th and Marquez will vault into sole ownership of 2nd place with his 5th P4P fight. He’s currently tied with Mayweather for 2nd place with 4 each.

FYI, you can read about the compelling parallel P4P histories of Pacquiao and Mayweather here:

https://roberto00.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/modern-p4p-rankings-manny-pacquiao-vs-floyd-mayweather-jr/

Another interesting development going into this fight is that after Mayweather was released from prison, he quietly paid out a private settlement with a public apology to Pacquiao in exchange for dropping the lawsuit that Mayweather had lost every round in. The IRONY is now Mayweather has been hit with hard rumors about 3 positive drug tests that were hushed up by Golden Boy Promotions and the  USADA drug testing cartel. Here’s the skinny by Thomas Hauser that pretty much backs up what I’ve been saying about the poor reporting in the boxing media about drug testing, plus plenty of new revelations:

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-boxing-news/the-ped-mess-part-one

Yes, most anywhere we look in the boxing world, there’s a lot of cynicism over the 4th fight between Pacquiao and Marquez. It doesn’t seem possible they could top their previous PPV total, yet there should be plenty of interest in the fight come first bell.

Who wants to miss what could be the best fight by far between these warrior adversaries? Not a chance. 

Juan Manuel Marquez Tries For 4th Title in Mexico City

Thirty year old Ukrainian light welterweight  Serhiy Fedchenko travels overseas for the first time ever to contest the WBO Interim Junior Welterweight title that could  earn Juan Manuel Marquez his 4th divisional belt. Come April 14th, Fedchenko should have quite the eye opener against the certified future Hall of Famer boxing’s most rabid capital, Mexico City.

Oddly enough, the native Mexico City born Marquez hasn’t boxed in Mexico City since 1994, fighting primarily in California and Nevada, so that’s some kind of 18 year Mexican homecoming he may have coming. Truth be told, Marquez was always the odd amigo out in the popularity stakes dominated by Los Otro Amigos,  Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales who often fought in Mexico, but I’d guess his stature has grown there since they have more or less been in the retirement phase.

Sergey Fedchenko

Sergey Fedchenko

Since almost all of Fedchenko’s bouts were staged in Ukraine, not much is known about him other than his record, 30-1, 13 KO as the current “WBO European Lightwelterweight titlest.” The only name opponents on his record are his sole majority decision loss to Kaizer Mabuza and a unanimous decision against DeMarcus Corley.

It goes without saying that Serhiy “The Professor” Fedchenko has never been stopped and is following on the heels of a stampede of talented Ukrainian champs and contenders in boxing. With only 13 KOs of European quality fighters, he is a boxer, not a slugger,  and boxing his only hope since the last 5 of Marquez’s 6 losses have come at the hands of highly rated boxer types of various styles, Freddie Norwood, Manny Pacquiao x2, Chris John, and Floyd Mayweather Jr. 

Fedchenko is obviously not in the class of the above, but he could move up to the bigtime if he were to knock the heavy favorite Marquez off his throne. Hungry East Europeans have made a pretty fair name in boxing doing just that, but can Fedchenko adjust to the manic atmosphere likely to accompany this fight?

Manny vs The Juan

Manny vs The Juan

I see this as a stay busy, wow the Mexican crowd with a homecoming in advance of Marquez’s next blockbuster fight. That could come against Manny Pacquiao in an epic 4th encounter IF Pacquiao wins his bout against undefeated Ring P4Per Timothy Bradley, a much bigger challenge and certainly not an easy victory.

Unfinished Business–Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez

Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez look to finalize loose ends left from their previous meetings when they complete the last leg of their great trilogy at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Saturday, November 12th.

Pacquiao vs Marquez II

Pacquiao vs Marquez II

The official record currently stands at 24 rounds completed in two fights with Pacquiao leading 1-0-1 to 0-1-1 while scoring exactly one(1) more point in the combined scoring totals. That includes 4 credited knockdowns of Marquez and one uncredited knockdown that would have secured a unanimous decision in the 2nd fight had it been properly called by referee Kenny Bayless.

Three of the knockdowns occurred in the first round of the first fight, after which one of the judges made a very rare admission that he made a mistake in scoring that first round that would have given Pacquiao the split decision win.

Marquez fans are a relentless bunch, claiming wins for both fights, so now the table has been set for the biggest fight of Marquez’s career, a chance to secure his place among the elite after being overshadowed by great featherweights of his era, Paquiao, Barrera, and Morales, all of whom have some great featherweight trilogies for their records.

The fight is another in a series of catchweight fights for Pacquiao causing a great hue and cry among supposed purists who don’t know their boxing history much less the nuances of modern fight contracts.

https://roberto00.wordpress.com/2011/02/12/catch-22-a-history-of-boxing-catchweight-fights/

Manny’s catchweights have been part of a bonus incentive program where the fighters make more money if they come in at the contracted weight. If not, they pay a penalty much like Floyd Mayweather Jr paid to Marquez. The fight goes on regardless.

In this case, it’s Marquez asking for the catchweight, settled at 144 lbs because he is not a natural welterweight, and of course Pacquiao’s promoter loves the publicity and notoriety that the catchweights garner. Folks, it’s all about maximizing big money, something Bob Arum is an expert at no matter how many howls of protest from the impoverished critics.

Ideally, there would never be any catchweights, but outside of boxing the world is a very disorderly place, so how is boxing to be perfect in the larger imperfect world?

Marquez wanted 142 lbs, the same as he got against Mayweather, but negotiated up in order to secure his biggest payday ever, not a bad deal at all for the aging warrior. Boxing fans had hopes that he would provide a competitive contest against Mayweather, but alas, his training was literally piss poor since his self produced urine tonics and tossing about of large rocks couldn’t provide the technical nuance needed against the crafty Mayweather, surely one of the most bizarre nutritional supplements in the history of modern boxing.

Though he lost a wide technical decision on the cards, he did land a few signature right hands early in the fight, enough to keep Mayweather on the backfoot for most of the fight and resembling a Chinese contortunist as he twisted his body into incomprehensible positions to avoid the Marquez offense.

The Mayweather Pretzel Defense

The Mayweather Pretzel Defense

So Marquez is a sharp counterpunching boxer whose power has to be respected. He is susceptable to being outboxed by crafty boxer types as Freddie Norwood, Chris John, and Floyd Mayweather have shown and Pacquiao has held his own in the boxing points tallies. Pacquiao was hurt briefly in their last fight, so a knockout for Marquez is not out of the question even if it seems unlikely.

The main key for Marquez is the knockdowns he suffers from, and not only against Pacquiao.

Marquez Duffs the Canvas

There is no way he can ever win against Pacquiao if he continues to be battered to the canvas, and Marquez was more than battered in the previous two fights, he was out on his feet and quite fortunate the fight wasn’t stopped at those points.

The Marquez brothers, Juan Manuel and Rafael, are some of the toughest fighters in any era. They do not quit out of sheer stubborness, nor do they or their supporters concede any of their defeats. These are very proud men, a noble attribute for sure, but one that has doomed many a misfortunate who lacked the judgment to know when to give in or make an adjustment, so can Marquez make the adjustment for this fight?

He can start by losing his urine tonics and hire a respected nutritionist and physical trainer to gain the weight properly, something he failed to do against Mayweather.

Now Marquez is steeping a tempest in a teapot with the hiring of controversial strength and conditioning coach Angel Hernandez, AKA Angel Heredia who was affiliated with convicted felon of the BALCO Laboratories, Victor Conte. Marquez claims not to have known about the past of Hernandez which pretty much exposes the lack of quality professional advice from his team, but at least Marquez should be in better shape this time around than he was for Mayweather.

That is what Manny Pacquiao has done for boxing. He whips his opponents into their best ever conditioning before comprehensively whipping them in the ring, so is Marquez now following down the same treacherous path?

Boxing has never seen such out of the ring exploits of the likes of Manny Pacquiao. Movie star, recording artist, and serving Congressman in his district in the Philippines, not to mention devoted husband and father, there is simply no known past model that can predict when or if the monumental out of ring distractions will take their toll on his boxing.

Though Marquez is the older fighter at age 38, the 31 yr old Pacquiao has almost caught his 59 career fights with 58 career fights against better competition, most significantly at higher weights these past three years. Marquez has logged more overall rounds, 432 to 341 for Pacquiao, but Pacquiao has been taking the stiffer shots against bigger fighters, so both have significant wear, yet they’ve remained two of Ring Magazine’s favorite P4P fighters over the decade.

vs Marquez 2008

vs Marquez 2008

 Pacquiao last fought Marquez only three years ago as a super featherweight and followed up by destroying Ring Magazine’s top welters who appeared on their covers that year, De la Hoya, Cotto, Margarito, and Mosley. Few in boxing would have believed that possible then, yet the critics remain unsatisfied.  

vs De La Hoya

Boxing is a business first and foremost and Pacquiao has worked as hard as any fighters in history to arrive at this spot where he can afford the luxury of fighting “only” twice a year. His political responsibilities are such that he should be hardpressed to fight even once a year and in fact, he has delayed his retirement the past 2 yrs because of all the money on the table for him and the big fights still available like this one.

vs Margarito

vs Margarito

The Marquez trilogy could be the biggest money fight of his career once the PPV totals come in which leads to another relevant point lost on the average boxing fan. Pacquiao is the first ever featherweight to command a PPV fight and looks poised to break the record for the most career PPV fights currently held by Oscar De La Hoya. More importantly, his PPV numbers over the past 3 yrs has set a new record first set by Mike Tyson.

He’s no longer the little Filipino fella with a funny name trying to make a name in America any more, though at the 146 lbs or so he currently enters the ring at, he is small for modern welters who sometimes come into the ring weighing over the middleweight limit come fight night. No matter the size, Pacquiao continues to rearrange the known boxing universe as we know it.

Cotto vs Mosley

Cotto vs Mosley

In spite of sweeping every consensus award as the decade’s best boxer, surely Freddie Roach and Manny Pacquiao know that he has to conclusively nail down this final fight with Marquez to get full credit for the rivalry.

Is Marquez just that sort of stubborn fighter who refuses to budge to the greatness of Pacquiao, or has Marquez been living on borrowed time at the fringes of officiating mistakes all these years?

The Bottom Line:

Pacquiao will be the substantial favorite. In the 7 fights since their rematch, Pacquiao has dominated superior competition with 4 straight knockouts followed by 3 straight shutout decisions. Marquez has sometimes struggled in the points tallies and has continued to get knocked down or otherwise hurt in some of his 6 fights since, but he is the Ring lightweight champ even as he has slipped in the P4P rankings, currently Ring #5 and Boxrec #7 . In contrast, Pacquiao is #1 in every significant rating known to man.

I don’t see how Marquez can survive this latest version of Pacquiao, but Manny did seem to let up after his beatdowns of Margarito and Mosley, so could be Marquez survives yet again to tell the tale of being robbed.

Full props to all the parties who helped to tie down this difficult loose end for good. Marquez had to leave Goldenboy Promotions who chose not to match the Arum offer.

Boxing fans tend to be an emotional lot and these two fighters bring out a bitter rivalry between the two groups. Some may moan about the completion of a great trilogy, but both Marquez and Pacquiao are richly deserving of this final battle to settle things once and for all.

The link for Pacquiao/Marquez 4 here:

https://roberto00.wordpress.com/2012/11/25/pacquiao-vs-marquez-4-the-money/

Pacquiao vs Marquez III

Pacquiao vs Marquez III